kathleen zelner did it pro bono. so if you don't have people willing to fight for you you'll get lost no question. >> when you would talk with fellow inmates and say i didn't do this would they look at you and say, yeah yeah that's what everybody says or would they want it hear your story? >> i didn't talk about my case to fellow inmates. there's a lot of people who will talk about their case said they didn't do it or a lot of people said they did do it. i didn't have anything to say. i just lived my life. we're here we're all equal let's get through whatever we're dealing with together because we're stuck in this environment. but talking about your case is not wise in the prison. i avoided that. >> what decisions need you make now that you're out? >> what decisions? >> yeah, what kinds of things are you thinking that you have to decide on? >> well, i look forward to getting a job. it will be very difficult. it's a struggle to move forward knowing that i haven't had any proper education. and whenever people google my